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  • Beers With Talos : Episode 105
    2021-05-24

    [CROSS-BROADCAST]Security Stories Ep. 27: Dealing with stress, burnout and mental health in the threat intelligence industry

    This is a very different episode in that it isn’t really a BWT episode at all. Hazel Burton from the Security Stories podcast invited Matt and Mitch to come on with the leader of Talos, Matt Watchinski. The idea was to chat with Hazel and her co-hosts Ben and Sana about burnout from three levels of a security research team. What followed as we all started talking was real and unfiltered conversation from many very different points of view. We talked about what has worked, what hasn’t, and our own struggles with self-care while trying to take care of our respective teams, families, and friends – hopefully some of our collective experience is useful to you.

    Original broadcast - Security Stories podcast, ep 27

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Special Guest:
    Hazel Burton@HazeBurton
    Featuring:
    Matt Olney@kpyke and Matt Watchinski@KMX2600
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    Run Time: 58:49

    Keywords
    • Talos
    • security stories
    • burnout
    • mental health

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 104
    2021-05-18

    Supply Chain has Matt Hopping Mad Like a Kangaroo

    Recorded March 30, 2021 – What better way to discuss supply chain attacks than to have Matt demonstrate how easily you can blend your payload into normal operations via Twitter shenanigans? We’re talking about (surprise!) supply chain attacks and how their rise to prevalence is notable, albeit expected. Supply chain gets linked in with privacy concerns as we round out the ep discussing the Signal/Cellebrite situation. Listen to the episode before you read Matt’s tweet (linkedin the full show notes) and see if you can pick the words that were part of his little reindeer game. Your prize is the achievement of a job well done. See the full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 43:50

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • supply chain
    • privacy
    • mad-libs

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 103
    2021-04-21

    ICS/SCADA Security - The Permanence and People Problems

    Recorded March 2021 – ICS and SCADA systems are deeply embedded all around us in critical infrastructure. Today we talk about some of the inherent issues in infrastructure security and take a wide-ranging look at the ICS- and SCADA-specific issues found there. Joe Marshall from the Talos Outreach group joins to share his insights on the space and how donuts are the ultimate career track switching tool. Oh- and Matt’s cat discovers jerky. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Special Guest:
    Joe Marshall@ImmortanJo3
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 42:31

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • ICS
    • SCADA
    • IoT

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 102
    2021-04-07

    Twitter has Questions for Us

    We’ve been quiet for a minute, but we have a few new EPs ready to go, starting with some of your questions from Twitter. And yes, one of the first questions concerns Craig and the robots. Do you have a question you’d like to ask us for the next listener questions episode? Send us a tweet (links below). Ask us anything security related or something else entirely. It’s your question, I’m not going to tell you what to ask. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 32:59

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • twitter
    • audience questions

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 101
    2021-02-24

    Is Security the Career You Really Want?

    We get a lot of questions in Talos about HOW to get a job in security. This ep takes a look at figuring out IF Security is the right career choice for you - and if so, where? The industry is a big place with so many different skills in demand, so having a good idea of your strengths and weaknesses is a good place to start. One constant is that curiosity, constant learning, and certain base knowledge seems to be correlated with success across most skills in the industry. We wrap it all up talking about mapping skillsets to transition careers. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 39:26

    Keywords
    • Talos
    • security
    • career
    • transition

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 100
    2021-02-09

    The Super Sized Centennial EP

    Recorded January 8, 2020 – It’s hard to believe that we have made 100 episodes of BWT. It easily feels like two or three times that many. This is a long winded show, as we welcome back our buddy Nigel for this special milestone. As an unintentional nod to our early episodes, the opening roundtable gets way off track and we basically host an “In-between” ep in the middle of a regular show. We also dig into supply chain attacks, in light of the recent SolarWinds incident, delving into defensive and IR strategies. Finally, we take a trip into the past remembering some of our favorite moments from the past 100 times I’ve written these show notes. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, Matt Olney@kpyke, and Nigel Houghton@EnglishLFC
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    Run Time: 1:15:40

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • supply chain
    • ep 100

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 99
    2021-01-15

    P@ssw0rds and Closing Out 2020

    This EP was recorded toward the end of the year and lived a quiet, but meaningful life in the production queue patiently waiting it’s turn to get released. In this Ep, we dig into a discussion on passwords and some of the issues both conceptually and in practice. Passwords aren’t inherently problematic, but how they are used…sometimes is. We discuss best practices to share with your friends and also touch on MFA (and SMS as an option of last resort). Craig seems to think lock analogies are key to understanding everything. The session was 2 hours long and this is the balance remaining after decency and standards review.

    All of us want to thank you for listening and making three years and (almost)100 episodes of Beers with Talos possible. Cheers. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 28:56

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • passwords
    • mfa
    • pig couch

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 98
    2021-01-04

    Why Ransomware Actors Are (and Aren’t) Targeting Healthcare

    Recorded early November, 2020 – This is an EP we recorded in early November but got pushed back in the end of year shuffle to make production schedules work. We’re happy to put this one out now with somewhat belated takes on (somewhat recent) health care ransomware attacks. We discuss a few key questions that are rather evergreen. Why is health care targeted in this way (and other verticals for that matter)? What defines a “high value” target to a ransomware actor? How can targeted entities better defend themselves?

    Full notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 25:04

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • ransomware
    • healthcare

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 97
    2020-12-10

    Getting to Better Security Outcomes (ft. Wendy Nather)

    Recorded November 24, 2020 – On this EP, Mitch and Matt are joined by Wendy Nather to discuss the newly released Cisco Security Outcomes Study. The results and findings of the research are interesting and somewhat surprising. As often happens with most good research, we end up asking more questions - in this case, geared toward the nature of the relationships found in the data. Special thanks to Wendy for coming on and joining us. As usual, her insight is stellar and she is much more entertaining than the rest of us. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Special Guest:
    Wendy Nather@wendynather
    Featuring:
    Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 37:09

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • Wendy Nather
    • data science
    • outcomes
    • report

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 96
    2020-12-01

    The Bogeyman and QR codes

    We got delayed with the holidays and PTO, but here is a long awaited ep. The rest of the year is on deck to release through the holidays, so fret not. In this EP we talk about QR codes becoming pervasive as easily deployed “touchless tech” (and how they could help the robots try to kill Craig), and then we take a look at some recent DOJ and APT activity that begs the question: is bringing charges against foreign APT actors anything more than a symbolic gesture? Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 35:37

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • qr code
    • APT

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 95
    2020-10-29

    Election 2020: Advice for voters and election officials

    Recorded October. 9, 2020 – We are running a short bench today after Nigel’s retirement and Joel being on vacation. We start off talking about how specific use cases don’t equate to the death of entire defensive technologies, despite the frequent assertions otherwise you may find on Twitter. The key to defense in depth is that no silver bullet stops everything - nothing is surprising here.

    The big focus of this EP, leading into the 2020 election is, of course, election security. We recap some important points from our research and go over materials we have put together for election officials and voters alike. Please take a minute to go though the links in the extended show notes on the Talos blog for a full list of Talos elections security and disinformation resources.

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, and Matt Olney@kpyke
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    Run Time: 37:06

    Keywords
    • Talos
    • defense in depth
    • disinformation
    • election security
    • voters

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 94
    2020-10-16

    Nigel is Marching On, Victorious and Glorious

    Recorded Sept. 25, 2020 – Today is Nigel’s last episode as a regular host of BWT. Join us in wishing him a happy transition to his next chapter - as we all know, Nigel won’t ever actually retire. Today’s show is us chatting with Nigel - about his career and his take on the industry as he entered, and now as he moves on to whatever comes next. Every aspect of Talos is better off because Nigel was here, as well as so many of the people he impacted along the way.

    We will all miss your daily presence, but we are excited to see what you come up with next. Cheers. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, Matt Olney@kpyke, and Nigel Houghton@EnglishLFC
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    Run Time: 52:48

    Keywords
    • Talos
    • security
    • Nigel

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 93
    2020-10-01

    “More Secure” Myths and Misconceptions

    On today’s show we take several of the larger security myths that are often heard around things like patching vulnerabilities - specifically the notion that more patches indicate less secure software. We also talk about other “common knowledge”-esque bits of advice we’ve all often come across. We could do a whole episode on silver bullets that (spoiler alert) weren’t. Let us know some of your favorite silver flashes on Twitter or drop us an email. Full show notes on the Talos Blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, Matt Olney@kpyke, and Nigel Houghton@EnglishLFC
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    Run Time: 36:11

    Keywords
    • Talos
    • security
    • myths

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 92
    2020-09-18

    Now Trending in Your Network: Disinformation

    Disinformation is front and center right now. As disinformation efforts constantly increase, platforms struggle to contain the problem without giving the appearance of censuring or controlling all information present. A Talos research team recently published some findings on the building blocks of disinformation campaigns (available via link below). Special guest Kendall McKay joins us to discuss the research she co-authored with her team in Talos. We go over exactly what defines disinformation and the most pervasive sources. We also look at who these actors are and how they operate at scale while remaining hidden. Full show notes on the Talos blog

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Special Guest:
    Kendall McKay@kkmckay22
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, Matt Olney@kpyke, and Nigel Houghton@EnglishLFC
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    Run Time: 39:27

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • disinformation
    • election security

  • Beers With Talos : Episode 91
    2020-09-01

    Get the FUD out

    Recorded August 14, 2020 – Let’s talk about FUD - it’s not enough to just say FUD sucks. Let’s talk about exactly how and why producers of FUD are garbage nightmare monster people. We also cover how they are actually damaging themselves, not just the people and organizations that buy their hype. We have rather strong opinions on this, so we invited Meredith Corley, an actual professional on the topic, to break it down for us all. Meredith is our Security communications and PR Director (previously of Duo and Blackhat fame) and takes us through spotting, defusing, and refuting FUD in the security community. Full show notes on the [Talos blog}(https://blog.talosintelligence.com/2020/09/beers-with-talos-ep-91-get-fud-out.html)

    Hosted By:
    Mitch Neff@MitchNeff
    Special Guest:
    Meredith Corley@MeredithCorley
    Featuring:
    Craig Williams@security_craig, Joel Esler@JoelEsler, Matt Olney@kpyke, and Nigel Houghton@EnglishLFC
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    Run Time: 43:38

    Keywords
    • talos
    • security
    • FUD
    • misinformation